How about DIDL-Liting around a bit

aaron330i 2007-01-31 16:25:31 UTC #1

I was reading up on the DIDL-Lite spec a bit last night and a feature request / thought occurred to me. It would be a really nifty feature if external metadata in an xml file could be merged in with the DIDL/RSS information for a given file or folder to expose that information to clients. At the folder level, it would be nice to specify an image, or url to the movie or imdb database for a show, whatnot.

Just thinking semi out loud.

ronenmiz 2007-02-01 06:58:57 UTC #2

You can load any valid didlite to the TVersity database via a utility that will be included in future releases. This is not exactly what you wanted but close enough. You will need to do the merging and then reload.
Alternatively just use tags. You now hat TVersity tags are hierarchical so you can do a tag that says:
imdb.{the actual url}

Since right now we won't return tags in DIDL-Lite (we will in future releases) you need to browse the tag container to get the values, but it is possible and you can display it anyway you like.

When do we get to see this app? How about some screenshots?

aaron330i 2007-02-01 15:37:55 UTC #3

Great news on the utlity, I cannot wait to see it.

Aah the screenshot question. There have been a few things that have impeded my progress:

Getting my head around various technologies I've never had to learn except as a user:

UPnP standards for control points and trying to craft proper SOAP calls...there is no WSDL as far as I could find. I eventually just started using the RSS feeds, and then switched to DIDL-Lite once you pointed it out.

UPnP and trying to create a UPnP discovery service in .NET. After literally a day of this, I just said screw it. There is a 32bit COM UPnP .dll I can use, but I want my program to work in Vista x64, too, and I don't want to hacl around creating a thunking layer.

I've wasted countless hours trying to figure out why and how media players are smart enough to know that they can or canot Fast Forward / Reverse a video stream. This has aggrivated me the most. And still does. I can't let it go.

Learning MCML and thinking what I'd like it to look like. I'm used to Windows Forms development, not page description languages, gradients, vector images, etc.

Learning the Vista Media Center object model...this is actually not too badd.

Getting caught up in pointless functions I want the app to do (like MCML configuration sceens instead of just creatiing a Xml confiuration file)

Other technical rabbit trails...emphasis on rabbbit trail.

In addition to the above, there's:
Day job plus one hour commute (each way)
Wife plus two children
Wanting to actually watch some TVersity videos on my bigscreen TV (this is a bad one).

ronenmiz 2007-02-07 05:24:10 UTC #4

No worries, take your time and make sure it is fun.
I think using REST style HTTP-Get and didl-lite is easier than soap so why bother with something else.
No need for discovery really, just take IP address of machine. I like it more than discovery since:
A. Web browser work that way
B. It work even over Internet, where the discovery won't work obviously. So if we launch a server in some location on the net that uses the same API (hint, hint...) your app will work with it just like your local TVersity server.

aaron330i 2007-02-07 16:37:43 UTC #5

You're right, of course, but I have a tendency to get distracted by trying to learn new technology. worse, in this case there was no point in learning it in the first place except for not knowing anything about DIDL at the time.

ronenmiz 2007-02-09 06:31:17 UTC #6

Yes, this is our fault. We have no documentation for neither the REST nor the SOAP API.
Perhaps when we launch our Wiki you can help us document it based on your experience.

bill_helton 2009-02-07 04:38:21 UTC #7

I was curious if the direct import for DIDL-Lite was something that was still in the works ?
I have been working on my own solution to import IMDB data for movies (in addition to a lot of other things) using playlists. However I can't use the Genre's or Year or any other items imported by playlist in the main menu system.

I would also be ok with using CreateObject in the ContentDirectory but I can't seem to get it to work - do hope someone can confirm it does or does not work ?

Here is what I have so far:

Just using the videos that ship with Vista for demo - I applied data from IMDB:
The IMDB search screen:

The data imported into the available items:

And the output ready for importing into TVersity:

<?xml version=&quot;1&#46;0&quot;?><rss version=&quot;2&#46;0&quot; xmlns&#58;dc=&quot;http&#58;//purl&#46;org/dc/elements/1&#46;1/&quot; xmlns&#58;media=&quot;http&#58;//search&#46;yahoo&#46;com/mrss/&quot;><channel><title>The Mummy Movies</title><description>The Mummy and The Mummy Returns</description>
      <item>
         <title>The Mummy</title>
         <media&#58;description type=&quot;plain&quot;>Brendan Fraser stars as an American serving in the French Foreign Legion who, on an archaeological dig at the ancient city of Hamunaptra accidentally awakens the Mummy&#46;</media&#58;description>
         <media&#58;content url=&quot;G&#58;//Movies/MUMMY169&#46;mkv&quot; fileSize=&quot;1746078632&quot; medium=&quot;video&quot; type=&quot;video/x-matroska&quot; duration=&quot;7500&quot; />
         <media&#58;thumbnail url=&quot;http&#58;//ia&#46;media-imdb&#46;com/images/M/MV5BMTg4NDEyNTY2NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTI0NDIyMQ@@&#46;_V1&#46;_SX96_SY140_&#46;jpg &quot; />
         <dc&#58;date>1999-01-01</dc&#58;date>
         <media&#58;category>Action</media&#58;category>
         <media&#58;category>Adventure</media&#58;category>
         <media&#58;category>Comedy</media&#58;category>
         <media&#58;category>Fantasy</media&#58;category>
         <media&#58;category>Horror</media&#58;category>
         <media&#58;category>Thriller</media&#58;category>
         <media&#58;rating scheme=&quot;urn&#58;mpaa&quot;>PG-13</media&#58;rating>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Brendan Fraser</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Rachel Weisz</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>John Hannah</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Arnold Vosloo</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Kevin J&#46; O'Connor</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Oded Fehr</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Jonathan Hyde</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Erick Avari</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Bernard Fox</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Stephen Dunham</media&#58;credit>
      </item>
      <item>
         <title>The Mummy Returns</title>
         <media&#58;description type=&quot;plain&quot;>The mummified body of Imhotep is shipped to a museum in London, where he once again wakes and begins his campaign of rage and terror&#46;</media&#58;description>
         <media&#58;content url=&quot;G&#58;//Movies/The Mummy Returns&#46;avi&quot; fileSize=&quot;3141402624&quot; medium=&quot;video&quot; type=&quot;video/x-msvideo&quot; duration=&quot;7800&quot; />
         <media&#58;thumbnail url=&quot;http&#58;//ia&#46;media-imdb&#46;com/images/M/MV5BMTIxMzk4NDAxN15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTY4MzMyMQ@@&#46;_V1&#46;_SX86_SY140_&#46;jpg &quot; />
         <dc&#58;date>2001-01-01</dc&#58;date>
         <media&#58;category>Action</media&#58;category>
         <media&#58;category>Adventure</media&#58;category>
         <media&#58;category>Fantasy</media&#58;category>
         <media&#58;category>Horror</media&#58;category>
         <media&#58;category>Thriller</media&#58;category>
         <media&#58;rating scheme=&quot;urn&#58;mpaa&quot;>PG-13</media&#58;rating>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Brendan Fraser</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Rachel Weisz</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>John Hannah</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Arnold Vosloo</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Oded Fehr</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Dwayne Johnson</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Freddie Boath</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Patricia Velasquez</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Alun Armstrong</media&#58;credit>
         <media&#58;credit role=&quot;actor&quot;>Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje</media&#58;credit>
      </item>
</channel></rss>

Example output in Flashlib:

And this is what is served to UPnP devices:

    <item restricted=&quot;true&quot; id=&quot;0/3/24/47/1943004/1943007&quot; parentID=&quot;0/3/24/47/1943004&quot;>
      <dc&#58;title>The Mummy</dc&#58;title>
      <dc&#58;description>Brendan Fraser stars as an American serving in the French Foreign Legion who, on an archaeological dig at the ancient city of Hamunaptra accidentally awakens the Mummy&#46;</dc&#58;description>
      <res protocolInfo=&quot;http-get&#58;*&#58;video/x-matroska&#58;*&quot; medium=&quot;video&quot; duration=&quot;02&#58;05&#58;00&#46;000&quot; size=&quot;1746078632&quot;>G&#58;//Movies/MUMMY169&#46;mkv</res>
      <upnp&#58;genre>Adventure</upnp&#58;genre>
      <upnp&#58;genre>Fantasy</upnp&#58;genre>
      <upnp&#58;albumArtURI profileID=&quot;JPEG_TN&quot;>http&#58;//ia&#46;media-imdb&#46;com/images/M/MV5BMTg4NDEyNTY2NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTI0NDIyMQ@@&#46;_V1&#46;_SX96_SY140_&#46;jpg</upnp&#58;albumArtURI>
      <upnp&#58;genre>Thriller</upnp&#58;genre>
      <upnp&#58;genre>Action</upnp&#58;genre>
      <upnp&#58;genre>Comedy</upnp&#58;genre>
      <upnp&#58;genre>Horror</upnp&#58;genre>
      <upnp&#58;actor>Brendan Fraser</upnp&#58;actor>
      <upnp&#58;actor>John Hannah</upnp&#58;actor>
      <upnp&#58;actor>Kevin J&#46; O'Connor</upnp&#58;actor>
      <upnp&#58;actor>Jonathan Hyde</upnp&#58;actor>
      <upnp&#58;actor>Bernard Fox</upnp&#58;actor>
      <upnp&#58;actor>Rachel Weisz</upnp&#58;actor>
      <upnp&#58;actor>Arnold Vosloo</upnp&#58;actor>
      <upnp&#58;actor>Oded Fehr</upnp&#58;actor>
      <upnp&#58;actor>Erick Avari</upnp&#58;actor>
      <upnp&#58;rating>mpaa PG-13</upnp&#58;rating>
      <upnp&#58;icon>http&#58;//ia&#46;media-imdb&#46;com/images/M/MV5BMTg4NDEyNTY2NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTI0NDIyMQ@@&#46;_V1&#46;_SX96_SY140_&#46;jpg</upnp&#58;icon>
      <upnp&#58;playlist>gmovies</upnp&#58;playlist>
      <upnp&#58;class>object&#46;item&#46;videoItem&#46;videoBroadcast</upnp&#58;class>
      <dc&#58;date>1999-01-01</dc&#58;date>
      <upnp&#58;actor>Stephen Dunham</upnp&#58;actor>
    </item>

Since I am pasting things - just show some more ideas I have had - its not much to look at as I have played a little with skins and xaml - this definitely not a finished UI, but more of a test bed for whatever whim I get :
The basic screen - allows browsing from local filesystem or from TVersity (using the HTTP interface) - Obviously you can shuffle a playlist or preview it (you select a preview format like M3U or WPL and it just allows windows to select a default player). The idea is to be able to use TVersity resources outside of a UPnP device - to use it in FooBar or Winamp for example. I am supporting import and export of Simple M3U, Extended M3U, WPL and ZPL, PLS (INI format), XSPF and of course RSS formats.

It has a lot of stuff going on - different ideas - this shows the small image gallery - and also how it reads tags or EXIF data from local files and displays upnp:icon and metadata from TVersity for items

A tag filler for untagged audio - you can use elements from the file path or filename to fill tags or type in values

While almost all of it uses the HTTP interface - I do use UPnP on one screen - its a DeviceFinder function to locate TVersity:

Another item I have cooked up is a 'Wizard' to split a container from TVersity into Alphabetical sub-groups
Step 1 select the original container:

Step 2 select how to split and assign an icon to the playlist

Step 3 select a Title and add a description and a small preview of the resulting playlist

And the resulting playlist content in RSS format:

<?xml version=&quot;1&#46;0&quot;?><rss version=&quot;2&#46;0&quot; xmlns&#58;dc=&quot;http&#58;//purl&#46;org/dc/elements/1&#46;1/&quot; xmlns&#58;media=&quot;http&#58;//search&#46;yahoo&#46;com/mrss/&quot;><channel><title>Artist Alpha Split Playlist</title><description>Split up the A/A container by first character</description><item><title>Musicartist starting at 0</title><guid /><media&#58;content url=&quot;http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/medialib/search?q0_0=(title+%3E=+%220%22)%20and%20(title%20%3C=%229%22)%20and%20(class+=+object&#46;container&#46;person&#46;musicArtist)&amp;amp;id=0/1/8/57&amp;amp;startat=0&amp;amp;count=0&amp;amp;&amp;amp;pfid=&amp;amp;format=rss&quot; type=&quot;text/xml&quot; /></item><item><title>Musicartist starting at A</title><guid /><media&#58;content url=&quot;http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/medialib/search?q0_0=(title+%3E=+%22A%22)%20and%20(title%20%3C=%22D%22)%20and%20(class+=+object&#46;container&#46;person&#46;musicArtist)&amp;amp;id=0/1/8/57&amp;amp;startat=0&amp;amp;count=0&amp;amp;&amp;amp;pfid=&amp;amp;format=rss&quot; type=&quot;text/xml&quot; /></item><item><title>Musicartist starting at D</title><guid /><media&#58;content url=&quot;http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/medialib/search?q0_0=(title+%3E=+%22D%22)%20and%20(title%20%3C=%22G%22)%20and%20(class+=+object&#46;container&#46;person&#46;musicArtist)&amp;amp;id=0/1/8/57&amp;amp;startat=0&amp;amp;count=0&amp;amp;&amp;amp;pfid=&amp;amp;format=rss&quot; type=&quot;text/xml&quot; /></item><item><title>Musicartist starting at G</title><guid /><media&#58;content url=&quot;http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/medialib/search?q0_0=(title+%3E=+%22G%22)%20and%20(title%20%3C=%22J%22)%20and%20(class+=+object&#46;container&#46;person&#46;musicArtist)&amp;amp;id=0/1/8/57&amp;amp;startat=0&amp;amp;count=0&amp;amp;&amp;amp;pfid=&amp;amp;format=rss&quot; type=&quot;text/xml&quot; /></item><item><title>Musicartist starting at J</title><guid /><media&#58;content url=&quot;http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/medialib/search?q0_0=(title+%3E=+%22J%22)%20and%20(title%20%3C=%22M%22)%20and%20(class+=+object&#46;container&#46;person&#46;musicArtist)&amp;amp;id=0/1/8/57&amp;amp;startat=0&amp;amp;count=0&amp;amp;&amp;amp;pfid=&amp;amp;format=rss&quot; type=&quot;text/xml&quot; /></item><item><title>Musicartist starting at M</title><guid /><media&#58;content url=&quot;http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/medialib/search?q0_0=(title+%3E=+%22M%22)%20and%20(title%20%3C=%22P%22)%20and%20(class+=+object&#46;container&#46;person&#46;musicArtist)&amp;amp;id=0/1/8/57&amp;amp;startat=0&amp;amp;count=0&amp;amp;&amp;amp;pfid=&amp;amp;format=rss&quot; type=&quot;text/xml&quot; /></item><item><title>Musicartist starting at P</title><guid /><media&#58;content url=&quot;http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/medialib/search?q0_0=(title+%3E=+%22P%22)%20and%20(title%20%3C=%22S%22)%20and%20(class+=+object&#46;container&#46;person&#46;musicArtist)&amp;amp;id=0/1/8/57&amp;amp;startat=0&amp;amp;count=0&amp;amp;&amp;amp;pfid=&amp;amp;format=rss&quot; type=&quot;text/xml&quot; /></item><item><title>Musicartist starting at S</title><guid /><media&#58;content url=&quot;http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/medialib/search?q0_0=(title+%3E=+%22S%22)%20and%20(title%20%3C=%22V%22)%20and%20(class+=+object&#46;container&#46;person&#46;musicArtist)&amp;amp;id=0/1/8/57&amp;amp;startat=0&amp;amp;count=0&amp;amp;&amp;amp;pfid=&amp;amp;format=rss&quot; type=&quot;text/xml&quot; /></item><item><title>Musicartist starting at V</title><guid /><media&#58;content url=&quot;http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/medialib/search?q0_0=(title+%3E=+%22V%22)%20and%20(title%20%3C=%22Y%22)%20and%20(class+=+object&#46;container&#46;person&#46;musicArtist)&amp;amp;id=0/1/8/57&amp;amp;startat=0&amp;amp;count=0&amp;amp;&amp;amp;pfid=&amp;amp;format=rss&quot; type=&quot;text/xml&quot; /></item><item><title>Musicartist starting at Y</title><guid /><media&#58;content url=&quot;http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/medialib/search?q0_0=(title+%3E=+%22Y%22)%20and%20(class+=+object&#46;container&#46;person&#46;musicArtist)&amp;amp;id=0/1/8/57&amp;amp;startat=0&amp;amp;count=0&amp;amp;&amp;amp;pfid=&amp;amp;format=rss&quot; type=&quot;text/xml&quot; /></item></channel></rss>

And an idea for a simple album art browser:

Album selected in browser:

Eventually I would hook up the resource for the track to allow playback - maybe the beginning of some sort of HTPC app.

As mentioned - additional playlists format outputs are Simple M3U, Extended M3U, PLS (INI format), WPL/ZPL, and XSPF (for FooBar) - these were all created from the same playlist of 11 items retrieved by using the search HTTP call (search term was 'Led' on all items - you can limit by item type using a dropdown with all of the upnp item classes):

M3U Simple in VLC:

http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/05%2b-%2bsnowballed&#46;mp3&#46;mp3%3ftype%3daudio%252fmpeg%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252fac-dc%252ffor%2bthose%2babout%2bto%2brock%2bwe%2bsalute%2byou%252f%26title%3dSnowballed%26ext%3d&#46;mp3
http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/10%2b-%2buntitled&#46;flac&#46;flac%3ftype%3daudio%252fx-flac%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252falice%2bin%2bchains%252fdirt%252f%26title%3dUntitled%26ext%3d&#46;flac
http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/02%2b-%2bblind%252c%2bcrippled%2band%2bcrazy&#46;flac&#46;flac%3ftype%3daudio%252fx-flac%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252fderek%2btrucks%2bband%252flive%2bat%2bmanchester%2bcraftsmen%2527s%2bguild%2b(disc%2b1)%252f%26title%3dBlind%252c%2bCrippled%2band%2bCrazy%26ext%3d&#46;flac
http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/12%2b-%2buntitled%2b(hidden%2btrack)&#46;flac&#46;flac%3ftype%3daudio%252fx-flac%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252fdick%2bdale%252ftribal%2bthunder%252f%26title%3dUntitled%2b(Hidden%2bTrack)%26ext%3d&#46;flac
http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/06%2b-%2bmuffled%2bsnaps&#46;mp3&#46;mp3%3ftype%3daudio%252fmpeg%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252ffailure%252fcomfort%252f%26title%3dMuffled%2bSnaps%26ext%3d&#46;mp3
http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/02%2b-%2bnailed%2bto%2bthe%2bgun%2b(live)&#46;flac&#46;flac%3ftype%3daudio%252fx-flac%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252ffight%252fmutations%252f%26title%3dNailed%2bTo%2bThe%2bGun%2b(Live)%26ext%3d&#46;flac
http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/02%2b-%2bnailed%2bto%2bthe%2bgun&#46;flac&#46;flac%3ftype%3daudio%252fx-flac%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252ffight%252fwar%2bof%2bwords%252f%26title%3dNailed%2bTo%2bThe%2bGun%26ext%3d&#46;flac
http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/04%2b-%2bimmigrant%2bsong%2b(led%2bzeppelin%2bcover)&#46;flac&#46;flac%3ftype%3daudio%252fx-flac%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252finfectious%2bgrooves%252fsarsippius%2527%2bark%2b(limited%2bedition)%252f%26title%3dImmigrant%2bSong%2b(Led%2bZeppelin%2bCover)%26ext%3d&#46;flac
http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/01%2b-%2bled%2bboots&#46;mp3&#46;mp3%3ftype%3daudio%252fmpeg%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252fjeff%2bbeck%252fwired%252f%26title%3dLed%2bBoots%26ext%3d&#46;mp3
http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/17%2b-%2bstar%2bspangled%2bbanner&#46;mp3&#46;mp3%3ftype%3daudio%252fmpeg%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252fjimi%2bhendrix%252fan%2bevening%2bwith%2bthe%2bjimi%2bhendrix%2bexperience%252f%26title%3dStar%2bSpangled%2bBanner%26ext%3d&#46;mp3
http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/19-star%2bspangled%2bbanner%2b(live)&#46;flac&#46;flac%3ftype%3daudio%252fx-flac%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252fjimi%2bhendrix%252fthe%2bultimate%2bexperience%252f%26title%3dStar%2bSpangled%2bBanner%2b(Live)%26ext%3d&#46;flac

M3U Extended in VLC:

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF&#58;203,Snowballed
http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/05%2b-%2bsnowballed&#46;mp3&#46;mp3%3ftype%3daudio%252fmpeg%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252fac-dc%252ffor%2bthose%2babout%2bto%2brock%2bwe%2bsalute%2byou%252f%26title%3dSnowballed%26ext%3d&#46;mp3
#EXTINF&#58;43,Untitled
http&#58;//192&#46;168&#46;1&#46;104&#58;41952/geturl/10%2b-%2buntitled&#46;flac&#46;flac%3ftype%3daudio%252fx-flac%26url%3dfile%253a%252f%252fe%253a%252fmy%2bmusic%252falice%2bin%2bchains%252fdirt%252f%26title%3dUntitled%26ext%3d&#46;flac
#EXTINF&#58;450,Blind, Crippled and Crazy
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#EXTINF&#58;177,Immigrant Song (Led Zeppelin Cover)
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#EXTINF&#58;236,Star Spangled Banner (Live)
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PLS Format in VLC:

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WPL in Windows Media Player:

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And XSPF in FooBar:

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ronenmiz 2009-04-08 02:47:00 UTC #8

We have a command line tool that takes DIDL-Lite and saves it in the media library and we can release it if people find it useful, however this is a one time import and not designed for repeatitve delta updates. Therefore It is probably best to use Media RSS, you can get to almost any property via RSS.

For example:

or are mapped to DIDL-Lite dc:date

is mapped to DIDL-Lite genre

maps to creator

is mapped to artist (similarly also to author, producer, director and so on)

and so on

bill_helton 2009-04-08 21:12:30 UTC #9

Ronen,
When you say one time - do you mean match up all movies then do a one time bulk import or import a single movie one time and never being able to update it ?

The import a single movie one time and never update it option is the ideal as it would be used just to add movies and the associated metadata the first time and have the appropriate menus correctly populated. What I have is an app that imports metadata from IMDB and offers the available images from IMPAwards or a local file (like folder.jpg) - currently I have tried:

1) using media rss and doing the initial import that way and I can confirm that works - but no menus like genre, year, etc.
2) importing then matching the data to the items later and writing to properties tables - also works, but again no menus

Both methods essentially had the same overall result - without the appropriate menu system entries being created neither seemed particularly usable. I had the additional thought some interesting custom menus around actor could be created also since those are stored.

So ideally if I had a DIDL-Lite import - I could select a file (or group of files - if doing a one time import) from a filesystem - match and associate the metadata and art then output the didl lite markup and feed that to the commandline tool - and that would allow the genre, year, publisher,rating etc menus to populate correctly. Since they are primarily movies I would not expect any changes to the data - so no need for delta changes on individual items.

The other potential option would be UpdateObject from the content directory - I think I found a post about it not being implemented but you had indicated there was an outside possibility ?

Thanks
Bill

ronenmiz 2009-04-09 16:46:57 UTC #10

Yes I mean bulk import that cannot be updated. We do not support CreateObject or UpdateObject at the moment.

What do you mean when you say "no menus"? You could easily create any set of menus by changing config.xml. For example of your movies have some uniquely identifying tag you could tweak config.xml so that every item with that tag will appear under some top level menu of your choice. You could also have menus by actor/genre or any property really automatically created at a location of your choice. If you open config.orig.xml you will see some documentation that can be useful when you twek your config.xml.

If you still want the command line tool, email me to info@tversity.com

bill_helton 2009-10-28 02:45:51 UTC #11

sodorfo
I'll attempt to answer some of your questions

So I have created a program that allows me to import IMDB data and link it to items in my TVersity setup. Its a work in progress - I'll show some demo of what I have working.

The latest version I am running have extends the Movies menu from the base install - I add containers for Actors, Years, Ratings. I use the existing Albums container for multi-disc sets, the Publisher is being used for the Production Company, and Genres uses the 27 Genres defined by IMDB. So the extended menu looks like this:

In these examples I have 'tagged' about 100 movies. For the actual data I collect the first 10 actors for each and movies in IMDB typically have 4-5 Genres associated with them - so there are a lot of 'repeaters' in the menu system. I was surprised how quickly the Actors menu grew dis-proportionality large - so I believe it may be better to trim to top 5 actors. However - I don't think I'll modify Genres - IMDB only has 27 - I think that is quite usable.

Here is the Genre Menu with an example of the 'Action' Genre contents:

A note on cover art - my app currently looks for (in order of preference) - 'folder.jpg', 'cover.jpg', *.jpg in the containing folder (based on the res property). I also pull the image from IMDB and provide the art from IMPAwards - so there is multiple choice. I currently use a 700x1000 image for my cover art - but as you can see the current version of TVersity is resizing them (too small in my opinion).

The Actors menu is the same as Genres - a list of Actors, and a list of the movies in the collection that they are associated with:

And the last few menus I'm not really enthusiastic about (Actors and Genre is really what I'm after) - Year is simply a list of years and the movies for that year and Publisher a list of Production Companies with movies. I think both items are 'interesting' but not really something I would be concerned with for movie 'browsing'. I think I'll drop those most likely.

Ratings doesn't appear to be a good menu - not every movie has a rating in IMDB and quite honestly I don't think I would ever look for a movie to watch based solely on rating - so I don't believe I will keep that menu either.

Albums is an odd situation - I have pressed it into service as a 'Set' container. But I don't typically think Album suggests a disc set - so I think I may create another container called multi-disc set or something similar.

Its a learning experience for me - of course I have things I want to change/drop and some stuff I haven't started. The main new stuff I feel it needs is 'editing' - currently once its in the system you can't change it - I think that's important. And secondly I haven't tackled custom menus. I think for that I want to build a treeview interface showing the menu and allow one to drag and drop new folders onto the tree and specify a rule for what is going into folder.

So that's what I've been building towards. I basically want to purchase a Wii for my daughter and let it connect to the flash interface for TVersity and have a data-rich user experience. Although I realistically would like to provide a more 'graphical' interface - maybe just a screen of cover art or similar. So maybe there is an opportunity there.

As far as embedded tags in the media - I had tried AVI tags and TVersity will read them. But you can't tag vobs and mkv tags didn't work for me. And I also tried to use the tagging facility - I didn't feel it accomplished what I wanted. And I did try rss feeds with Yahoos media rss extensions - again not the result I wanted.

And on the subject of making the software available - of course its not really ready for prime time. Also I wouldn't let it out without some blessing from Ronen and I haven't even made the first gesture his way as its not ready. So currently this stands as another 'what is possible' concept with TVersity. And I don't work on the program regularly as I am just a hobbyist so I am just having fun with it.

Later
Bill

"sodorfo":

bill.helton

in your post above in which you have all the images and postings of rss xml files, what utility made those and how did you get them imported into tversity? or is this a brainstorming / wishlist type thread?

I have a rather large existing library of recorded video and would dearly love to be able to generate the xml tagging files in a utility even if i had to put the info into that utility by hand, but only if TVersity will use that info for the menus.

None of my video files have metadata tags within the files (mostly cause i can't find one that works right, most either don't do the job or crash on me) whereas all my music has proper tagging. But does TVersity even read tags from the files you import into it? the web page fails to mention anything about the subject, just gives that "isn't this nice?" feature blurb about putting tags manually into the add item dialog window.

i really love how well this product works with all the devices in my home and am seriously concidering buying the pro version but my goal is to end up with a nice way of finding things from the on screen list and seeing something that resembles one of the images above where the art and description etc all show up prior to playing the video.

is there a way to get there from a fresh install?

what thrid party tag makers, sql managers, reference xml template files etc do i need to do this?

i have been researching for a week now and really can't find much info about tversity and how to set it up to get a more professional look and functionality at end device.

i have been playing the few test videos i imported with no problems on the xbox360, ps3, psp, and a DirectTV box with no technical issues.

thanks for your time.

sodorfo 2009-10-03 11:13:01 UTC #12

bill.helton

in your post above in which you have all the images and postings of rss xml files, what utility made those and how did you get them imported into tversity? or is this a brainstorming / wishlist type thread?

I have a rather large existing library of recorded video and would dearly love to be able to generate the xml tagging files in a utility even if i had to put the info into that utility by hand, but only if TVersity will use that info for the menus.

None of my video files have metadata tags within the files (mostly cause i can't find one that works right, most either don't do the job or crash on me) whereas all my music has proper tagging. But does TVersity even read tags from the files you import into it? the web page fails to mention anything about the subject, just gives that "isn't this nice?" feature blurb about putting tags manually into the add item dialog window.

i really love how well this product works with all the devices in my home and am seriously concidering buying the pro version but my goal is to end up with a nice way of finding things from the on screen list and seeing something that resembles one of the images above where the art and description etc all show up prior to playing the video.

is there a way to get there from a fresh install?

what thrid party tag makers, sql managers, reference xml template files etc do i need to do this?

i have been researching for a week now and really can't find much info about tversity and how to set it up to get a more professional look and functionality at end device.

i have been playing the few test videos i imported with no problems on the xbox360, ps3, psp, and a DirectTV box with no technical issues.

thanks for your time.

yaiui 2009-09-11 18:29:58 UTC #13

Hi, I would be very interested in the solution that shows the movie art. This is something I have been looking for for a long time.
Where do you make it available ?

Regards

vladlp 2009-11-03 00:43:43 UTC #14

bill.helton
I want to import my current database from AntMovieCatalog to TVersity. I have already create small tools which use Media RSS and playlist for it.
In TVersity database I can see properties like upnp:actor, upnp:genre with correct value but how to add it to the menu???
Can you please give some info how you achieve it. Thanks

cdukes 2010-11-19 01:19:27 UTC #15

So what ever happened with this? Sure looked promising.
Did it ever get released?

birdie 2012-10-06 20:30:23 UTC #16

Hey All,

I know this is an old thread but did this ever get released or is there a better way to achieve this? I would love to have IMDB data for my movies.

bill_helton 2013-03-25 16:54:55 UTC #17

It's been rather hard to post - at least for me - I was able to change my password on my old account so looks like maybe the forum is 'healing'
Also - not really a lot of people on the forums these days to discuss stuff with.

So since the first incarnation mentioned previously - I worked on/completed a strictly http api based version. This turned out to be a good exercise for me to learn WPF + Caliburn.Micro + MEF. I used MahApps.Metro to create a 'Zune-ish' user interface - and wpf data templates work out great for building out a http api browsing tool.

This tool makes use of TMDB, TVDB, and/or NFO files (XBMC format) for metadata.

With this I am able to update icon, description, title, director, date, rating(mpaa), class (movie/videoBroadcast/musicVideoclip), album(for movie 'sets')
and build out the menu structures:

Video
--Video Indexes
----Genres
-------
----Publishers
-------
----Collections
-------
----Rating (MPAA/Certification)
----Year

----TV Shows
------
--------
------

----Music Videos
------

While it is usable I wasn't entirely happy with the results - primarily because there were 2 complaints I have with the http api:
I can't add array type data (specifically actor, actor@role , genre) to the items
I can't add/modify icon,description,class, misc info on container objects

I did additionally create a working Scrobbler service for audio using the http api which runs as another service on the mediaserver host.

ronenmiz 2013-06-07 18:16:29 UTC #18

This discussion is closed.