Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby puppydg68 on Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:39 pm

It must be something that Tversity is doing differently than the other software platforms.. As PS3 Media Streamer and Twonkey do not exhibit this problem.
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby ronenmiz on Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:49 pm

Thanks for that data point. We are trying to see why on some W2k3 the problem does not appear while on others it does.
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby whatsit on Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:21 pm

Hello,

I just wanted to bump this to see if anyone has an update. I'm not much of a network guy (at least not at this level), so I'm probably not going to be much help technically. However, this problem is the ONLY reason I and at least one of my friends is not using TVersity right now. I'm looking forward to this getting fixed.

Thank you all for your hard work and any information you can provide.

-Jason
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby ronenmiz on Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:59 pm

Thanks for digging into that and the feedback. cURL is used as an HTTP client when we download content off the web. To server requests we do not use cURL we use libupnp (http://upnp.sourceforge.net/).

As far as I know there are no internal exception during these requests, the TIME_WAIT may suggest some timeouts, we will look into that.
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby amirh1 on Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:03 pm

BTW don't know if it was already pointed out but I'm having the same problem streaming from W2K3 to Wii. I tried local connection (opening the flash from a PC connected to the W2K3 directly) and there's still stuttering, so it's not wifi related.

I'm running TVersity on W2K3 custom built, 8GB of RAM, Intel E7300, Streaming from 1TB 7200rpm SATA drives.
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby Kimi on Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:36 pm

I had the stuttering problem on a SBS 2003 as well. Some day I decided just to play around with the network settings on the PS3 for one final try together with TVersity. And suddenly - it worked!
This is what I did:
- reduced the MTU size to 1496
- Set the DNS-Gateway to the IP of my server instead of the router
- 1000MBit Full-Duplex (wired of course)

I didn't dare to touch the settings one more time as now it works with HD-Recordings. I guess it is either the MTU size or the gateway setting doing the trick.
So maybe this helps some way...
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby mainegeek on Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:18 pm

Glad to hear that fixed it.

Yeah, unfortunately, I messed around with the Playstations MTU size setting. That was actually one of my first thoughts. There is a past thread in this forum that I started where I discuss the MTU size. At the time, I was certain it had to be an MTU problem; but no avail.

As for DNS... that shouldn't matter. Unless, your routers DNS server is EXTREMELY slow then I can't see how that would make a difference. SBS DNS is much more robust however
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby ronenmiz on Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:19 am

Thanks kimi! Anyone else has similar results?
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby ProTeuS on Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:03 pm

So, I've also had this streaming problem, as I posted about before in this thread.
I saw kimi's post when it was posted and yesterday I thought I should give it a try.

I connected my PS3 through wire instead of wireless, as I had before. This didn't do any change to the streaming. I've tried it before.
But then I reduced the MTU to 1496 on my PS3 and now it's streaming like never before :D
That was the only thing I did. I didn't "Set the DNS-Gateway to the IP of my server instead of the router", as kimi said. I only set the MTU.
So I've been streaming all day and the movies are loaded much faster now and there's no more "buffering".

Thanks kimi for finding the solution to my troubles.

Take care my fellow streamers!
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby puppydg68 on Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:39 pm

Setting the PS3 to MTU of 1496 also worked for me.
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby whatsit on Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:42 pm

Ok, so that's really strange. I have to add my name to the list of people saying that the magic MTU number 1496 seems to work! I don't understand it, but an Xvid that was previously unwatchable is now streaming as smooth as I could ever have hoped.

I have a 100Mbit wired connection. I tried to stream my file, got the same results as always (choppy and unwatchable), went to the network config on the PS3, set everything to auto except MTU, and then started playing the video again. I'm having no problems with the exact same file and with no changes on TVersity's side.

Thanks a bunch!

-Jason
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby JazBas on Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:23 am

Here there where a lot of stuttering and buffering......but the "magic" MTU number 1496 solved all the streaming problems :D
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby whatsit on Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:41 am

Alright, just a quick update. After changing my MTU, Xvid's seem to stream very well. However, there are still some MP4's that are not streaming perfectly, yet. I can get a smooth video for a few seconds, but then the old familiar herky-jerky playback begins. If I pause it for a minute and then unpause, I can get another minute or so of smooth video, but then the problem begins again.

As much as I like pausing and unpausing every minute or so, that's still not a good solution :lol: so I'm still looking for a fix to this problem with regards to MP4 media files. I do find it strange that AVI/Xvid files are streaming so well while MP4's do not, though.

Just my two cents and any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
-Jason
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby JazBas on Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:10 am

I tried to stream a .mp4 file from tversity on my whs now....and that is working like a charm here (like everything else after I changed the MTU to 1496 :-)
Have you checked that its not trying to transcode the mp4 on the fly?
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Re: Problems with TVersity running on W2K3 and streaming to PS3

Postby unikey on Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:32 pm

running xp64 here and setting the mtu to 1496 has removed the buffering problem and SD now works flawlessly but 720p still stutters to much to use and 1080p is totally unwatchable, and it will still only play one audio track rather than an entire folder. Same setup works perfectly with a 360 and a dlink DSM320
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