How I got MKV, MPG2, and Subtitles to work.

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How I got MKV, MPG2, and Subtitles to work.

Postby naki on Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:44 am

Here is how I got MPEG 2, MKV, and Subtitles to work with my 360.

I found most of my problems were with the how ffdshow audio was handling the audio. My solution was to bypass ffdshow audio for most audio. The error on my 360 was usually a timeout to server error.

To do that:

1> Install AC3 Filter.
In the settings select:
Main->Output Format->AS IS (no change) & PCM 16bit
System->Check PCM, AC3,DTS, MPEG Audio, DVD, & SPDIF.

2> Open ffdshow audio and select Codecs
Uncheck MP3, MP1, MP2, AC3, & DTS

This should fix most issues with alot of video types not working.

To fix subtitles in MKV and folders set to "Always transcode" I found the problem was with Haali Media Splitter and VobSub. For some reason VobSub was not overlaying the subtitles in TVersity, but it was working find in normal video players like Media Player. To fix this:

1> Uninstall Haali Media Splitter and VobSub.

2> Install Matroska Splitter.

3> Open ffdshow Video decoder and select (check) subtitles.
Select (check):
Accept embedded subtitles
Accept SSA, ASS, and ASS2 subtitles (experimental)
Decode closed captions
Add to the end of Extensions priority: ;.ass

Apply and OK.

You now should have subtitles on your movies either embedded in MKV or as a seperate subtitle file (Make sure it is the same name as the movie).

To force subtitles on your .avi movies you need to put them in a seperate folder and add the folder to TVersity menu and select advanced and set to "Always transcode". Otherwise TVersity will just pass the AVI file direct to the 360 without the subtitle file.

Hope this help everyone.
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Extra Note

Postby naki on Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:46 am

Also, I did NOT have to put my MKV videos in my always transcode folder, they were transcoded automatically even when they have divx video inside them.
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Re: How I got MKV, MPG2, and Subtitles to work.

Postby mikepaul on Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:07 am

naki wrote:2nd: Remove Haali Media Splitter if you have it. And install Matroska Splitter.

Which one is this? I've seen Haali and Gabest mentioned before...
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Postby naki on Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:17 am

I rewrote the instructions to be alittle more clear and included links the programs.
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Language of subtitles

Postby naki on Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:23 pm

Another update: If you want to select the language of the subtitles if it has more than one then:

Open ffdshow video decoder, goto Subtitles->Vobsub

check Enable
Preferred languages->What language you want 1st (i.e. english)
What language you want 2nd (i.e. Japanese)

check Obey positional settings from Subtitles page.

Thats it. You might need to restart TVersity and Delete temporary media files.
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Postby carimari on Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:54 am

can someone verify this? btw which splitter is that? gabest / haali?
from the version no. looks like haali. are you sure the subs (softsub) in mkv works?
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Re: How I got MKV, MPG2, and Subtitles to work.

Postby ringdrossel on Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:55 am

naki wrote:
To force subtitles on your .avi movies you need to put them in a seperate folder and add the folder to TVersity menu and select advanced and set to "Always transcode". Otherwise TVersity will just pass the AVI file direct to the 360 without the subtitle file.


Do you literally mean a separte folder for each movie subtitle or does it suffice to throw them all into one global folder? Does tversity then look automatically for it?

Thanks for clarifying!
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Postby mikepaul on Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:01 am

carimari wrote:can someone verify this? btw which splitter is that? gabest / haali?

from the version no. looks like haali. are you sure the subs (softsub) in mkv works?

I had downloaded that splitter before, and it's not Haali: Haali has a control panel available.

I can't say it IS the Gabest splitter for sure until I look at all my downloads again, but it is a good possibility...

OH, embedded subtitles did work, but when I remuxed my Matrix example to remove all but the English subtitles, the streamed version was out of sync. I haven't worked on that in several days but I think I need a better remuxer...
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Postby naki on Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:49 am

I put them all my subtitled movies folders into 1 folder and told tversity to transcode that folder. Works fine for me, with no sync issues.

The whole issue I found with mkv and subtitles was the way it uses VobSub after ffdshow. This was the only mkv splitter I found that passes the info to ffdshow allow it to overlay the subtitles correctly.

I am still using the settings above without any issues.
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Postby carimari on Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:21 am

tried with my vista 64..

1- uninstalled cccp, uninstalled everything else
2- installed ffdshow tryouts (using ffdshow_rev1785_20080116_albain_x64)
3- installed matroska splitter as per your instruction (using matroska.1.0.2.9_nt installer ).

now. i cant get the mkv splitter to split the audio / video properly.. no video at all only audio.. im assuming some incompatabilty between this splitter with vista. thus this make me think this IS Gabest based / at least not Haali.

sigh. gabest wont work with vista. so im stuck like a dead duck. :cry:
back to cccp again for me. thanks for the tips tho.
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Postby naki on Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:38 pm

Something I just remembered, you MUST have tversity running as your profile in services, not as system. If you don't, ffdshow and such will run of default settings instead of the ones you have programmed in.


For those wondering, I am running XP Media Center. Not Vista.

System: XP Media Center, 2.4 Core 2 Quad, 4 GB Ram, 1 TB Raid 0 HD.
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Re: How I got MKV, MPG2, and Subtitles to work.

Postby psik on Sun May 24, 2009 12:38 pm

OMG, thanks god Subtitles work for me for PS3!!!!, thank you naki...this is what I did as naki stated earlier in the forum in addition to what naki stated in his first post : so you must not only configure the subtitle menu correctly but also the vobsub

"Another update: If you want to select the language of the subtitles if it has more than one then:

Open ffdshow video decoder, goto Subtitles->Vobsub

check Enable
Preferred languages->What language you want 1st (i.e. english)
What language you want 2nd (i.e. Japanese)

check Obey positional settings from Subtitles page.

Thats it. You might need to restart TVersity and Delete temporary media files."
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Re: How I got MKV, MPG2, and Subtitles to work.

Postby Asamak on Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:57 am

For the love of all that is holy can someone please sticky this I looked forever and couldn't find a post that was helpful. I had given up months ago. I randomly check back today and see this post that is from 2008. If I had just seen this from the get go It would have made my life a lot easier. Thank you Naki Thank you.
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Re: How I got MKV, MPG2, and Subtitles to work.

Postby jonkeo on Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:52 am

I was able to get the MKV's to work per the instructions but the quality isn't nearly as good as watching it from the computer. I have an 8 gig file of Batman from a Blue Ray Rip and it looks like a standard 800 meg or less video.
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Re: How I got MKV, MPG2, and Subtitles to work.

Postby mikepaul on Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:27 pm

That's because it has to be transcoded.

Convert it to WMV9 and it might look better...
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