Tversity - Making it Work for PS3 *updated 11/23/09

[KarnaG3]

Hello, this is my first post here so bear with me. I have got Tversity working on everything but .mkv files. I used to be able to get video with crappy sound, but I tried all the instructions at the start of this thread, and now I get a corrupted file error. When I try to play .mkv files through Tversity, it gives me a "save/open" dialog box and tries to open another tab/window in my browser. I am not sure where I mis-steped, but one thing I remember not doing is deleting the Tversity file folder from the C:\ drive after I uninstalled the program. Would this cause my issue?

To answer your last question, no, but a fresh install (with the folder deleted ) couldn't hurt.

I'm unclear on your question though: are you trying to play the file IN the Tversity GUI in Windows or on the PS3?

Either way, if you're getting a corrupted file error, its probably nothing to do with your setup. When you get this, shut down the PS3, rebuild your library in Tversity, or refresh the folder that gave you that error where that video was located, then restart Tversity server under Settings and start the PS3 back up and try it again.

Depending on where the file is on your system, such as on a USB or external drive, you may want to try to enable sharing on the folder. You only need to share it with yourself; your windows user name, but sometimes this helps avoid the corrupted file error.

[KarnaG3]

How to make PS3 play all files within a directory of media server? I have set up my hometheater pc as a media server for the playstation 3 and have many tv shows on that server. When I watch on the PS3 it will play one episode, then at the end of that episode it will just stop instead of continuing on to the next episode (file). Is there a kind-of "play all" feature for the PS3 when watching from a media server? Thanks be to all.
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Unfortunately what you're asking for is a playlist and as of right now there is no such thing for videos. But its a great suggestion and you should put it in the suggestion thread in the Tversity forum.

[KarnaG3]

thanks in advance for all your help everybody

I decided to give tversity a shot after spending the last six month coverting all my MKV files to blu ray or M2TS files to play on PS3.

I have set up tversity according to the karnag3 setup guide but...

i am having login issues:(

i am in the services menu trying to set up the login type. I select "this account", browse in advanced and "find now" to find my admin user but my user name isnt there . I am set as the admisntrator under the user account settings in windows but it's not here... If i pick administrator, i can login, and I can see all the folders in my library on PS3, but all MKV files are "corrupted" and will not play. The videos play fine in media player classic on my PC. M2TS files playfine...any help would be much appreciated.

thanks!

Sorry, this is MY bad. This is actually an unnecessary step for Tversity now. It was previously necessary for some people, but its moot now. I'd suggest a fresh install of your codes; I recommend CCCP found here: http://www.cccp-project.net/ and a fresh install of Tversity.

Install the codecs first, RESTART, then install Tversity, DON'T start it, RESTART, enjoy.

I doubt with the newest version you have an "corrupted files" error messages, but as I noted above, this is usually due to one of two or both things: 1) The folder and/or drive you are trying to access doesn't have sharing enabled, in which case you need to share the folder/drive with media (you can even just do file by file if you prefer) with yourself (your own windows login name) by right clicking the folder/drive and selecting Sharing. Let me know if you get lost. 2) You haven't rebuilt your Tversity library since a major change in your codecs, Tversity settings or folder settings in windows. Hit the little refresh button at the top of Tversity, restart your PS3 and restart the Tversity media server and you should be good.

[KarnaG3]

thanks in advance for all your help everybody

I decided to give tversity a shot after spending the last six month coverting all my MKV files to blu ray or M2TS files to play on PS3.

I have set up tversity according to the karnag3 setup guide but...

i am having login issues:(

i am in the services menu trying to set up the login type. I select "this account", browse in advanced and "find now" to find my admin user but my user name isnt there . I am set as the admisntrator under the user account settings in windows but it's not here... If i pick administrator, i can login, and I can see all the folders in my library on PS3, but all MKV files are "corrupted" and will not play. The videos play fine in media player classic on my PC. M2TS files playfine...any help would be much appreciated.

thanks!

Make sure transcoding is always on.

Wrong. Find the folder/file in Tversity under Library. Double-click it and click Advanced. Make sure it is set to "When Needed". Under settings, make sure its set to PS3. Tversity will automatically identify files that are natively supported (i.e. no transcoding needed) and those that aren't and it will transcode accordingly.

Do not set transcoding to "always on" or you'll end up using a crap ton of CPU power, having the inability to seek thru standard AVI/Divx/Xvid files and you might also have MORE incompatibility issues. Mostly, its just slower.

[KarnaG3]

KarnaG3, this worked beautifully thank you very much... I was making the mistake of not rebooting/keeping old codecs around...THANKS AGAIN.... One more question, is it possible for me to watch 2 movies (Quantum of Solice, and Valkyrie) that are in DTS with this setup? Currently the movie plays fine but i have no audio. do i have to convert it to DD from DTS or should it play that as well?

Thx

First, again, everyone, sorry for all the late replies, hopefully I still help someone

Well, originally I would have said NO to DTS, but here's the deal:

Some DTS, if properly encoded CAN be transcoded, but you'll need this little dude from DCBass: http://www.riverpast.com/en/download/extras/dcbass/

Riverpast makes awesome conversion and other media tools and that link has a download link to DCBass from the Riverpast site.

The catch is, its hit and miss, as it really depends on whether or not it was encoded correctly so you'll just have to install it and then try and if it works, then good, if not, sorry.

AC3 Filter WILL play DTS, but CAUTION: you'll want to disable it from decoding anything OTHER than DTS, and its track record with Tv is about as good as Michael Jordan's golfing career: flakey. I'd stay away from it, but here's a link if you want to try...again caution: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/AC3_Filter.htm

DCBass works well, and doesn't conflict. Just remember to restart after the install.

*edit* Another option, if all else fails, is a pretty simple re-encode of the audio, then remux.

I did this with one MKV that was a huge pain and just wouldn't work right. I used River Past Audio Cleaner after installing DCBass to convert the DTS file to MP3. I did this by demuxing the DTS audio file and H.264 video from the MKV, converted the DTS to MP3, then remuxed (NOT the same as encoding, only takes about 10 min) the H.264 video & MP3 into an MKV.
An alternative, probably higher quality, would be to do the same thing but convert the DTS to AAC. Let me know if you need help if it gets to this point .

[Alpahc]

Hello KarnaG3,

I used to have everything that worked fine (except a stuttering problem on x264 MKVs) then I updated to the last TVERISTY version, and now I can't read mkv's anymore. (data corrupted, even after a fresh install, following your first page tutorial scrupulously)

You say some stuff is outdated, I don't get it all but I suggest you edit your tutorial with the new instructions. (The 20 pages are kinda hard to follow )

I also tried to delete every codec and install CCCP reboot, then tveristy, reboot but then media server crashed when I tried to watch such MKV.

Any help ?

[Alpahc]

Also, I would be glad if you had added more details to your tutorial. (install tversity with his codec pack or not, install the fdshow submitted with tversity or not...)

[KarnaG3]

Also, I would be glad if you had added more details to your tutorial. (install tversity with his codec pack or not, install the fdshow submitted with tversity or not...)

Sure, I can do that. I need to update this guide as it is outdated.

With the suggestion to use CCCP, this is INSTEAD of the codec pack included with Tversity.

The biggest mistake people make is laziness. Don't install everything together, and don't skip a restart.

If you don't have Flash for Firefox installed, install this first. No restart is necessary after this install, and YES it must be the Flash for Firefox.
Uninstall ALL codecs you have installed currently & Tversity. RESTART.
Install the CCCP. Restart
Install Tversity. UNCHECK the Tversity codec pack & Babylon things in the install. UNCHECK the "Start media server" and "Start Interface" at the end of the install. Do NOT start Tversity yet. RESTART
After the restart, everything should be kosher.

**edit** You don't need to install FFDShow, this is included with the CCCP install.
I know this is a quick answer, but I will update the guide as requested later this week.

[Alpahc]

I not sure I have found the right version "flash for firefox". I have installed "installer_adobe_flash_player_(firefox,_mozilla,_netscape_&_opera)" but maybe you could provide me a link ?
I will try this out though.
Thanks

EDIT : Did everything as you explained higher (except for the flash for firefox thingee which I'm unsure), didn't change any of the TVersity default settings, and mediaplayer.exe still crashes when attempting to view an x264 mkv.

[KarnaG3]

I not sure I have found the right version "flash for firefox". I have installed "installer_adobe_flash_player_(firefox,_mozilla,_netscape_&_opera)" but maybe you could provide me a link ?
I will try this out though.
Thanks

EDIT : Did everything as you explained higher (except for the flash for firefox thingee which I'm unsure), didn't change any of the TVersity default settings, and mediaplayer.exe still crashes when attempting to view an x264 mkv.

Are you trying to view this MKV with your media machine (i.e. xbox, ps3, etc) or is this occuring when you try to view the file in Windows?

Either way, what happens when you try to view it in Windows? Also, do you have Quicktime installed? If you're unsure and didn't uninstall it when you uninstalled other codecs, make sure you do. NOTE: if you installed iTunes, then you also installed Quicktime. x264 streams in MKV are actually the same as x264 streams in MP4; i.e. they can be read by Quicktime. Quicktime has a very "egotistical" approach in Windows; if no other codec is found, sometimes Quicktime automatically takes over file association with compatible file types. In other words, when you uninstalled your codecs originally, but didn't install Quicktime, then re-installed codecs, this may have resulted in a registry error.

Also, are you installing the codec pack that comes with Tversity as well? Because you want to make sure you ARE NOT installing this. Post back with this info and I'll try to help.

[Alpahc]

Are you trying to view this MKV with your media machine (i.e. xbox, ps3, etc) or is this occuring when you try to view the file in Windows?

It happens when I try to view it through my PS3. My MKVs all work fine under windows. I don't have quicktime and, of course, I didn't install TVersiy codec pack as you said I shouldn't.

[KarnaG3]

Are you trying to view this MKV with your media machine (i.e. xbox, ps3, etc) or is this occuring when you try to view the file in Windows?

It happens when I try to view it through my PS3. My MKVs all work fine under windows. I don't have quicktime and, of course, I didn't install TVersiy codec pack as you said I shouldn't.

I'm assuming you're using XP and that it is 32bit NOT 64bit. Correct me if I'm wrong. And yes, there are serious issues with codec compatibility in 64bit Windows (especially MKV) in XP and Vista.

This sounds like a registry issue. My guess is that at some point you had more than one codec installed for playing MKV and both were instructed to be the dominant codec (you can have multiple codecs installed for vid type and FFDShow can be instructed to prefer one over the other, but unless this is manually adjusted, having two codecs for the same thing causes a registry conflict).

My suggestion would be to follow all of the steps I've already given, however, after uninstalling Tversity and ALL of your codecs, run Registry Mechanic (or McAfee registry cleaner works well if you have that) then restart, run it again, if it finds anything else after the 2nd run, restart and run it again until it finds nothing. You can do this OR you can manually remove all of the registry entries for Tversity AND, most importantly, all of your codecs....but that's a huge pain in the @$$ so I don't recommend it.

Also, always check under Program Files (C:\Program Files) and make sure to manually delete (if they're still there) the folders for your codecs & Tversity. This will ensure that the previous settings are completely gone on a new install (that, and the registry cleaner of course).

Let me know what happens. If you need Registry Mechanic, you can get it here: http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/download/ but you'll have to get your own registration key if you want the full version. The trial version still repairs a lot of stuff and it may resolve your issue, but I'd suggest the full.

[Alpahc]

I have WinXP 32 bits up to date. The problems arose when I had updated from an old version of TVersity that I had installed from ages (a version that I installed following your guide and which could play everything including mkvs but with an annoying stuttering besides the fact my PS3 was wired)

I installed the new version over the old one, as I always did with any updates, assuming this new version would detect the old one and save my settings. But I lost every settings and my library.


Anyway now the problem is solved a different way :
I dont use TVersity anymore for viewing my MKVs, rather, I set up a DualView with my PC to my HDTV through a DVI/HDMI cable with an optical AC3 passthrough for the sound. ALL 1920*1080.24p without a stutter and Reclock filter to compensate the audio desync. I'd say now, every MKV with a decent bitrate plays fine... I mean BR quality.

Thanks for help

[grinch247]

IT FINALLY WORKS!!!

If you don't have Flash for Firefox installed, install this first. No restart is necessary after this install, and YES it must be the Flash for Firefox.
Uninstall ALL codecs you have installed currently & Tversity. RESTART.
Install the CCCP. Restart
Install Tversity. UNCHECK the Tversity codec pack & Babylon things in the install. UNCHECK the "Start media server" and "Start Interface" at the end of the install. Do NOT start Tversity yet. RESTART
After the restart, everything should be kosher.


KarnaG3,
first of all, much appreciation... i can finally watch my "matroska" files. i kept trying your first post on this and it wouldnt work, then i slapped myself and decided to read further. i cleaned the hell out of my registery using auslogics registery cleaner, and after uninstalling all related software to this using the supplied uninstallers, i also manually deleted there leftovers in the program files folder. i do have a few problems now that i am this far, and would love your advice.

1. when attempting to play a mpeg-4 (under dimensions when i mouseover it says avc1, AAC) i get an "unsupported file" error, yet it plays just fine on the dektop that is serving all my stuff.

2. when i attempt to stream some of the rss feeds under "guide" i get "corrupt data".

i havent checked all of my flicks to see if the work, but so far so good execpt for the mpeg-4. any suggestions would greatly be appreciated. and thanks again i have been working on this for about 3 days now.

[KarnaG3]

:mrgreen: IT FINALLY WORKS!!!

If you don't have Flash for Firefox installed, install this first. No restart is necessary after this install, and YES it must be the Flash for Firefox.
Uninstall ALL codecs you have installed currently & Tversity. RESTART.
Install the CCCP. Restart
Install Tversity. UNCHECK the Tversity codec pack & Babylon things in the install. UNCHECK the "Start media server" and "Start Interface" at the end of the install. Do NOT start Tversity yet. RESTART
After the restart, everything should be kosher.


KarnaG3,
first of all, much appreciation... i can finally watch my "matroska" files. i kept trying your first post on this and it wouldnt work, then i slapped myself and decided to read further. i cleaned the hell out of my registery using auslogics registery cleaner, and after uninstalling all related software to this using the supplied uninstallers, i also manually deleted there leftovers in the program files folder. i do have a few problems now that i am this far, and would love your advice.

1. when attempting to play a mpeg-4 (under dimensions when i mouseover it says avc1, AAC) i get an "unsupported file" error, yet it plays just fine on the dektop that is serving all my stuff.

2. when i attempt to stream some of the rss feeds under "guide" i get "corrupt data".

i havent checked all of my flicks to see if the work, but so far so good execpt for the mpeg-4. any suggestions would greatly be appreciated. and thanks again i have been working on this for about 3 days now.

Ironically, MKVs are a file container format; they have a video stream & audio stream in a "container"...little different than MP4, AVI, etc.

MKVs usually have an h.264 video stream & AAC, MP3 or DTS audio stream; if they have h.264 & AAC, they are essentially an MP4 with a different name... but the CCCP codecs won't play them.

What you'll need to do is install Quicktime OR Quicktime Alternative (recommended, less bulky, no quicktime player just the codec).

You can install Quicktime from the Apple Quicktime site, or you can download Quicktime Alternative here: http://codecs.com/download/QuickTime_Alternative.htm

1) STOP TVERSITY
2) Install QT Alt/QT
3) Restart your PC
4) Enjoy.

*edit* Regarding the RSS feeds from "Guide" in Tversity: many of them are outdated; they haven't changed at all for about a year or so, so I wouldn't rely on them. Hulu.com has TONS of awesome stuff for free. Try that.

If you still have issues with RSS try setting the "folder" for the RSS feed (in Tversity Library) to "When Needed" for the transcode setting under the Advanced tab. You'll need to Restart the Tversity server once you change the transcode settings.