Get ready for Firmware 2.20!!!

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Postby NachoF on Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:02 pm

Zenak wrote:2.20 seems to have improved playback for DivX - I tried almost all of the ones I couldn't play before and most work now. All of my WMV VC-1 video, files now get video, where previously most just gave an unsupported format error.

I'm still looking forward to support for multi channel WMA audio.

Not for me.... the same xvid and divx videos that wouldnt play before still dont play now.... subtitle support is GREAT though
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Postby nathan118 on Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:22 pm

Streaming mp4 files is broken here too. My mp4 files are home movies. I have some that are 1080i AVC, and some are 720p AVC, and they all stutter. They play, but stutter city.
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Postby ness on Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:51 pm

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playsta ... ing&page=1

Sony definitely broke streaming and it isn't isolated to MP4 at this point. WTB firmware 2.21 anyone? :P
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Postby aphonia on Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:13 am

Well I'm feeling a little bit better knowing that other people are experiencing the same issue I am and that hopefully Sony will release another patch.

Just gonna have to go a few days (or weeks) without movie streaming. Alas I cry.

SARAH OUT!
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Postby dave_bass5 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:57 am

NachoF wrote:
Not for me.... the same xvid and divx videos that wouldnt play before still dont play now.... subtitle support is GREAT though


Same here although looking at the files i can see why mine wont play (not the right spec according to Sony)

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Postby Dead_Cow on Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:01 am

to me, I believe this is a TVersity issue, and not a PS3 issue. If you put the same files on DVD or CD, they will play fine on the PS3. Says to me we're looking at a DLNA/Server issue, not a PS3 firmware issue. Somethign needs to be tweaked when sending a signal to the new Sony PS3 firmware.
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Postby dave_bass5 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:04 am

I agree if they play directly form the PS3.
In my case what wouldn't stream wouldn't play directly either.

A bit Off topic but do we know when Tveristy will be out of beta?
Ive only been using it for two weeks so i m not really up on what's been happening with it.

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Postby ness on Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:11 pm

Dead_Cow wrote:to me, I believe this is a TVersity issue, and not a PS3 issue. If you put the same files on DVD or CD, they will play fine on the PS3. Says to me we're looking at a DLNA/Server issue, not a PS3 firmware issue. Somethign needs to be tweaked when sending a signal to the new Sony PS3 firmware.


Incorrect.

The issue occurs using the following media servers:
Tversity (tested personally)
Twonky Media (tested personally)
Nero Home Media (tested personally)
Windows Media home server (I don't recall the name but those people are reporting issues)

Now it may well be that the folks with tversity could patch something in to resolve the issue but that doesn't mean it is a problem with Tversity. Sony definitely changed and / or broke something related to streaming considering people using a variety of media servers are reporting the issue.

note: I'm talking about stuttering playback of media when streaming (but not playing directly on ps3). I have zero dnla or permission issues even after the firmware. If anything, my PS3 detects media servers and content much faster. I can "play" anything now but most content is choppy (MP4 detected content in particular which is mostly mkv or avi). Stuff that played flawlessly over wired or wireless before.
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Postby schworak on Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:14 pm

ness wrote:
The issue occurs using the following media servers:
Tversity (tested personally)
Twonky Media (tested personally)
Nero Home Media (tested personally)
Windows Media home server (I don't recall the name but those people are reporting issues)

Now it may well be that the folks with tversity could patch something in to resolve the issue but that doesn't mean it is a problem with Tversity. Sony definitely changed and / or broke something related to streaming considering people using a variety of media servers are reporting the issue.


I totally agree. I have also seen this when I plugged my USB drive directly into the PS3. It is much better but still stutters a bit. If I copy the m ovie to a memory stick it works ok or if I then copy it to the internal hard drive. But on the USB drive or via UPnP streaming it stutters.

Did I mention that I own 2 PS3 units and the unit on version 2.2 won't play properly but the unit on version 2.17 works perfectly with TVersity and USB...
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Postby tonx on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:37 pm

Yep, all the mp4 videos i had that worked fine before the update are now a stuttering mess.

I hope a Tversity or PS3 Firmware update fixes this soon. I need my shows!
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Postby JoeMerchant on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:49 pm

olebrumm71 wrote:After upgrading to firmware version 2.20 I am now having issues with at least MP4 streaming.

MP4 files which used to stream perfectly before the upgrade now play back in a choppy manner.

(the same files, when transferred to the internal harddrive of the PS3, play back just fine. So it seems to be problems with the streaming )

M2TS files however (with H.264/AVC video and AC3 5.1 audio ) still stream perfectly, and FF and REW still works (although I get a feeling that it takes a bit more time for the FF to "accelerate" - but once it gets going at high speed it works perfectly )


I have this same exact experience with Twonky on the QNAP TS-109... I wonder if Sony really wants a rep. for sending out updates that break valuable functionality in their device?
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Postby Dead_Cow on Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:56 am

Yeah. All that... OR...

Sony updated to be 100% DNLA compliant, and things aren't broke, but rather, working as they always should have, and never had.

Good job standing up in TVserity's defense. They definately needed it.


ness wrote:
Dead_Cow wrote:to me, I believe this is a TVersity issue, and not a PS3 issue. If you put the same files on DVD or CD, they will play fine on the PS3. Says to me we're looking at a DLNA/Server issue, not a PS3 firmware issue. Somethign needs to be tweaked when sending a signal to the new Sony PS3 firmware.


Incorrect.

The issue occurs using the following media servers:
Tversity (tested personally)
Twonky Media (tested personally)
Nero Home Media (tested personally)
Windows Media home server (I don't recall the name but those people are reporting issues)

Now it may well be that the folks with tversity could patch something in to resolve the issue but that doesn't mean it is a problem with Tversity. Sony definitely changed and / or broke something related to streaming considering people using a variety of media servers are reporting the issue.

note: I'm talking about stuttering playback of media when streaming (but not playing directly on ps3). I have zero dnla or permission issues even after the firmware. If anything, my PS3 detects media servers and content much faster. I can "play" anything now but most content is choppy (MP4 detected content in particular which is mostly mkv or avi). Stuff that played flawlessly over wired or wireless before.
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Postby ronenmiz on Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:33 pm

We have not been able to reproduce this issue. I am guessing we may need to try a larger MP4 file. We did see however playbacks that start with audio and video out of synch and slightly stuttering that get back in synch if you start playback then stop and then resume.
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Postby sillydino on Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:44 pm

ronenmiz wrote:We have not been able to reproduce this issue. I am guessing we may need to try a larger MP4 file. We did see however playbacks that start with audio and video out of synch and slightly stuttering that get back in synch if you start playback then stop and then resume.


I am experiencing this issue. I haven't experienced any file format not working.
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Postby ness on Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:48 pm

Dead_Cow wrote:Yeah. All that... OR...

Sony updated to be 100% DNLA compliant, and things aren't broke, but rather, working as they always should have, and never had.

Good job standing up in TVserity's defense. They definately needed it.


Except that... I didn't stand up for Tversity or even anyone in particular. Read what you quoted again. It is all over the various boards and happening on a lot of media servers. I specifically tested various media servers for a reason.

At this point I doubt it was just a compliance change. Usually when a large company makes such a change, they'll toot that horn when users report problems and quickly shift the responsibility to the third parties since they are now "compliant". Sony instead has been deleting some of these threads from their own forum and completely ignoring the others which remain. I'm not pulling the big bad Sony card (I like Sony and the PS3) but I don't think they need a defense.

Even *If* it were a compliance change, it would be nice if such a major change was documented. You don't just change something like this without performing proper testing and an understanding of your target audience... You know, what kind of software they're using? I can say this from experience and I don't have to tell you who I work for to justify that opinion either.

The reason I pointed out what you said as being incorrect is because you were saying it is a Tversity issue. I simply pointed out that all media players exhibit the problem so how you construed the fact that I am defending Sony is beyond me. Hell, I even pointed out that while Sony made the change, Tversity might be able to fix something on their end to help. Like you, I just want streaming media to function again =)

I'm glad that you're standing up for Sony though, they definitely needed it. :roll:

Back on topic...

ronenmiz wrote:We have not been able to reproduce this issue. I am guessing we may need to try a larger MP4 file. We did see however playbacks that start with audio and video out of synch and slightly stuttering that get back in synch if you start playback then stop and then resume.


I don't think it has to do with file size. I can reproduce on any media server noted above (Including Tversity) using 200-300 MB files. It is all over the US sony boards along with posts here and on other ps3 forums. I also have tversity set to always transcode (This media will not play unless tversity is set to always do so). Played fine in tversity and twonky media prior to 2.20 (Or maybe 2.17, my PS3 skipped to 2.20 i think though).
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